“Who’s down with O.P.P.?
Ya You Know … Me”"
OPP = Other People’s Pussy
I don’t think the 90s rap group “Naughty by Nature” was thinking what we were thinking when we wrote this blog post but were definitley “Down Wit’ O.P.P.”
(and its not what you think … this isn’t a ‘how to steal g/f’s method’)
Late last year we hit you up with the new improved social circle sarging method that DaveC came up with, really good for getting new girls in your social circle, even better when they know you’re into pick up or if you have a player vibe. Since then we’ve continued to experiment with a variety of different social circle situations.
You see when there are a tonne of social circle girls chilling and you’re sub-comms / game is pretty tight it’s like shooting fish in a barrel. Of course there are a lot of different permutations of the social circle structure but out of all these, one really caught my eye.
What if other guys brought a large amount of girls to us? What if we didn’t need a social circle at all? Of course it’s not as simple as that. How many guys are going to just start straight up bringing girls to you?
After some trial and error we hooked it up.
The magic holy grail of how to sleep with girls you never have to approach, cause they approach you … at your house.
The results where nothing short of phenomenal, but there are some subtle changes that become important like:
Giving Social Value
We often talk about giving value to girls but in this case your first requirement is to know guys who have a good tight social circle of women and help hook them up. In our case we looked no further then the local club promoter. His job is to consistently bring in high quality women to nightclubs but with that requirement there are a couple of real problems such as:
1) He can never find enough cool guys to chill with his girls
You see the good promoters get all their girls in one place then drag them all to the club, the pre-party gets the girls ready for a fun-filled night. Unfortunately girls like dudes (most of em anyway) and if there’s only 1 guy to 14 girls it’s gonna be a problem.
However, those of us trained socially are perfect, we know how to keep many girls satisfied at any one time without over-stepping the mark or creating any weird vibes that most creeper dudes would generate. (Note: Most guys start hitting on every girl straight away or just have bad calibration)
2) He doesn’t have a cool place to party.
A good promoter we know ended up getting some noise citations, so we let him use our place for his pre-parties, it got crazy fast, of course if you use your place for the pre-party it will also be used for the after party 90% of the time, and your bedroom is. Right. There.
Another great part of the pre-party is that no one trashes your place, people don’t drink too much because they don’t want to get wasted before the night really gets going.
Even better you don’t need the most amazing party place as long as it looks amazing, check out this video by our good friend LoveDrop from VA to see what we mean:
NOTE: Avoid promoters who want $$’s in exchange for hooking you up, there is pretty much always a way around this, paying is usually never worth it. It sets you up as another guy paying for the company of women. Also, stay away from ‘c***whore’ promoters. Not what you want. Avoid. Bad. Sarging girls that are obsessed with getting (starts with C) generally doesn’t result in any sex or positive relationships or positive anything for that matter.
The Importance Of The Pre-Party:
Trying to pull fresh sets that you havent really talked to before right prior to the after party can work but it often doesn’t because …
At the end of the nite *every dude* is trying to pull in a panicky ‘I’m desperate to pull so I get some pussy’ manner, the girls all know this … so even though you might have tight game and be totally un-needy – you get put in that ‘desparate’ category by the girls regadless and you have to work way harder to get things to happen.
Consequently, depending on the club, doing all the heavy sarging there without making an initial impression BEFORE the venue can set you back, costing you a good time later on that night.
To sarge other people’s social circles effectively you’ll want to follow the following 3 step formula:
1) have all of them pre-party at your house and make sure the ratio is good (at least 3 girls for every guy)
2) pick one girl (preferably one that you know, from your social circle that you invited specifically for this purpose) that you just have normal low value velocity comfort conversation with so it looks like your hitting on NOBODY.
3) Don’t really talk to all the other girls until they IOI you multipe times.
This puts in complete contrast to the guy who thinks he can mack on every girl that passes through his door.
Then after a while girls will start showing you interest on your disinterest, allowing you to transition straight to mid-game. Ill give a girl 15 mins of stuff like …
HB10justgottomyhouse: “Hi, I’m Sarah . Is this your place.”
me: “ya” (ignoring her pretty much)
HB10justgottomyhouse: “OK, soo …. what your name.”
me: “mehow” (still ignoring her pretty much)
HB10justgottomyhouse: “OK, nice to meet you.”
me: keeps taking to the girls from step 1)
So I’m not totally ignoring them … Im just giving them enough of an answer to their questions as to not be a total social violator but im IODing them with my body language the entire time and I go back to talking to my faux target.
After 30 mins or so of this you will have girls staring at you really hard, hair tossing, giving you proximity, finding excuses to sit next to you etc and then you can just pick the hottest one and go straight into normal mid game and viola… odds are youre gonna have an extra house guest that nite and maybe the start of something big and awesome.
Usually all this takes is game and a small apartment makeover and a few bottles of cheap liquor with mixers.
Choose The High End Venues, Get The Hotter Girls:
You want a promoter who not only goes to the higher venues but gets free bottles, tables and free entry and a cut of the bar due to the copious amounts of women he is bringing to the club. Good promoters can get anywhere between $200 – $500 a night for what they do on top of the perks mentioned above.
When they are promoting at the hotter clubs, they have hotter girls show up. We actually went to a club recently that was turning away any girl that wasn’t a 9 or above. Usually these places are attract the extremely attractive and the extremely wealthy. If you’re promoter is working these venues then it’s a good bet that he’s pulling in really hot women. So the best nights to host the pre-party are the when the best clubs are popping.
One last point, make sure you know which girls the promoter is hooking up with, you always want to avoid starting something with a promoters girl for obvious reasons.
That’s it guys, hopefully these mini-steps will help those of you who want to have some cool guy friends that can offer value to each other and sarge some women too.
Mehow & DaveC
p.s. And if you want a pic of what this looks like here is one from last week ….
(yes, our residential students get in on this every week … we have 2 spots left in 2012 … go here if you want to apply)